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You are right
Posted by Frank on Nov 21, 2009 17:20

Music is entirely dependent on time (meter etc.) and may be played everywhere in the universe because of time....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeY3XEJFGdw

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RE: RE: RE: RE: Time a by product????
Posted by rufus on Nov 21, 2009 15:25

I don't know about demetia, it may be coming, my mother has it but she is 88. I am not however demented, which is something far worse. I have not nor am I now an adherent to astrology, which has exactly nothing to do with science, as least not as I see it. I have a B.S. in mathematics and chemistry cum laude and have on a couple occasions worked in DOE run national laboratories. I seriously doubt that you have anything in the way of scientific qualifications, so I will not comment further as the superball effect is quite strong and it's not worth the time since you don't read any of it or at least don't seem to comprehend any of it.
Reply to: John 8:44
Time can't be a by-product but gravity can?

Time is not just a # on a clock, morning, afternoon, weekends, breakfast time, star trek time...

Without the movement of Earth what meaning would time have? If you left Earth and had no clock how long before you would lose ALL track of time?

So, what do you mean when you say time is everywhere?

According to the bible time started when Jesus divided the night from the day. One rotation of the Earth some 6 thousand years ago was the 1st day, before that there was no time, no space, no matter, NO UNIVERSE- ONLY GOD.

The bible also says there is no time in heaven, or hell which may roughly correspond to your 'dimensions', but they just don't have time.

Dimensions? I doubt it, but you might have dimen-'tia', or you should tell your astrologer you want your money back.

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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Time a by product????
Posted by John 8:44 on Nov 21, 2009 14:43

I KNOW what time is, and I have told you repeatedly that it is a by-product of the Earth motions, you just refuse, or are incapable of, grasping this simple truth...

Fact
1 day= 1 revolution of Earth on it's axis

Fact
1 year= 1 complete orbit around the sun

Fact
1 week= A biblical unit of time

All other time is some division or multiplication of these two base units of time.
Reply to: Frank
"So, what do you mean when you say time is everywhere?"-John to Rufus

Rufus is right that time is everywhere in the universe. We don't know what time is, but it is measured by mathematical intervals of matter in relation to matter.

Music can be played everywhere in the universe because the musical notes are mathematically separated intervals of vibration via the use of matter. (In fact, some years ago, a space probe was sent from earth with a gold disk playing Bach with the disk powered by energy from light. Scientists hope it might be be "heard"-understood someplace in the universe by beings with the ability to have mathematical concepts. Thus Bach might be playing someplace in the universe long after earth has ceased to exist.)

(This is becoming a boring topic. But Rufus is right that time is everywhere in the universe.)


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RE: RE: “Christmas” dilemma comes again
Posted by TzaphaEZ33 on Nov 21, 2009 12:38

Well said Joy! You are a joy to me. So, rattle on. The noise you make is music in this fallen world.
Reply to: Joy
TzaphaEZ33,

Well if this isn't a delight. I too have not celebrated Christmas or any of the pagan holidays. There are many Good Christian sites that tell of why we shouldn't celebrate these holidays. In this day and age it is one of the most important times of our lives and we should be working even harder to lead lost souls to Christ. Our main job on this earth is the great commission, to go into all the world and preach the Gospel to all the nations. With the end looming into view very soon, we need to help all lost souls to an eternity that is not separated from our loving God. Our battle is with the unseen.

We all have a great task ahead of us to help others from going into the pit. We are responsible for everyone who comes across our daily path, to make sure they have had the chance to hear the Word of God. We can only do the best we can and then let God take over. If only one soul is saved from our testimony then it has covered a good many sins.

I don't mean to go on a preaching spree, but I went to the site you suggested and haven't read them yet but will after printing them. I'm a firm believer in a pre-trib gathering unto our Lord in the clouds as His Word tells us. I have studied my Bible for many decades and still do every day. It's a learning process that never ends.

Nice talking to you since I seldom post any more. I've said it all so many times before I get tired of repeating myself with the daily news that I predicted years ago.

TzaphaEZ33, not an easy handle to remember, but none the less I appreciate your post. It's late for me, but you gave me the umption (sic) to rattle on a little bit... sorry!

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RE: Christmas Dilemna
Posted by TzaphaEZ33 on Nov 21, 2009 12:36

The problem is the whole celebration itself. I suppose those songs are okay, but when would you listen to them? By all indications, Jesus was most likely born at the time of the Feast of Tabernacles which occurred in late September / early October then. So if you want to celebrate his nativity, perhaps you could listen to these songs during God's appointed festival, when Christ was actually born.
Reply to: Falcon5467
Is it okay to enjoy listening to Christmas music? Please don't tell me that "Silent Night", "O Holy Night" and "Joy To The World" are pagan abominations. If so, you've just stuffed my stocking with lumps of coal, Ebenezer.

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Tolerating Intolerance
Posted by stoecker on Nov 21, 2009 10:58

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116714

The Muslims hate Christians, Jews, everyone else, and one another. They are behind virtually all of the world's terrorist atrocities for decades, and they prefer death to life. Every predominantly Muslim state on Earth is a corrupt and brutal monarchy or dictatorship. Yet we are told that we must "tolerate" them and give them special privileges, and allow more and more of them into our country. Anyone criticizing them is hit with the only card the fascist left has...they are accused of racism, despite the fact that Islam is a religion, not a race.

Suppose that before or during WWII the nazis had blown up the Empire State building just for the fun of it, and killed 3,000 Americans. Suppose that they had committed many more terrorist murders on our soil. Would our government have allowed hundreds of thousands of them to come and live here? Would we be ordered to love them? Would Americans opposing nazism have been labeled "racist"?

William B Stoecker

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A Preview
Posted by stoecker on Nov 21, 2009 10:48

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116668

Just as California is for the US as a whole a warning of what is to come, Black people are a preview of what the elites have planned for all of us. Today, on average, Blacks are poorer, less educated, and more prone to racism and criminal behavior than any other group in America. They have the highest rate of abortions, but still have the highest rate of illegitimate births, and are most prone to welfare dependency. And yet, a few decades ago, their families were largely intact, their crime rates were lower, more of them were gainfully employed, and they had lower rates of abortion and illegitimacy than Whites do today.

A substantial portion of the Black population, primarily in the inner cities, were deliberately dumbed down and made dependent on welfare. The elites brainwashed them into believing leftist propaganda and blaming everyone but themselves for their predicament. And, of course, they were deliberately targeted by the genocidal nazis at Planned Parenthood.

The rest of us may be lagging a bit, but we are headed in the same direction...straight down.

William B Stoecker

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ASL
Posted by stoecker on Nov 21, 2009 10:37

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116664

I am ashamed to be related to these people. Where do all of these self-hating Jews come from? The ADL should be renamed the Anti-Semitic League, because they support the fascist elite who hate Israel and Judaism as much as they hate Christianity. And the ADL relentlessly attacks the real friends of Israel and the Jews, including Joseph Farah and WND.

The ADL has nothing whatever to do with protecting Jews from anti-Semitism. And the Southern Poverty Law Center operates all over the country, not just in the South, does nothing to combat poverty, and undermines the rule of law. Both of these organizations were set up by the elites as extra-governmental "watchdog" agencies to spy upon, slander, and intimidate perceived enemies of the New World Order. And yes, "ASL" is descriptive for another reason as well.

William B Stoecker

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Time for Bach
Posted by Frank on Nov 21, 2009 10:36

"Jesu, Juva" (Jesus Help!)-Bach began his manuscripts
"Soli Deo Gloria" ("To God alone be glory") Bach finished his manuscripts.
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Below is the Bach piece sent out on Voyager in 1977. It would be just like Almighty God to have a humble church organist (unknown in his life-time) played all over the universe.-LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi5atMwEwQg

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:HDkSnbIRRA8J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Voyager_Golden_Record+bach,+space+probe&cd=
1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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The Final Theft
Posted by stoecker on Nov 21, 2009 10:25

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116669

Do we need any more evidence that the bailouts have, all along, been simple theft? Despite the massive amounts of money Obaminable and its fellow millionaires have given to their billionaire bankster supporters, unemployment continues to rise and the dollar is about to crash. It has been simple theft, robbing the poor (the vanishing middle class) to pay the rich, disguised by the usual leftist rhetoric.

Their control of most of the media is so complete that they don't even bother to do a good job of lying, and announce that the money has gone to nonexistent congressional districts. Why stop there? Why not announce that they have created jobs by sending money to the city of East York in the state of West Carolina? Or the city of Hitler, East Dakota? Even if the media failed to cover it up, the UIs would never catch on.

William B Stoecker

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